![]() ![]() Green ramp decks going wide and I don't have access to Sharpshooter, Chainwhirler, etc.In my experience, there are two scenarios where the deck can have problems. However, recent testing against Kari Zev leads to me to believe the match-up has flipped 180 degrees because they don't have a 1-sided Sulfuric Vortex on turn 1 now. Before the Zurgo ban, I felt the match-up was very heavily in their favor. However, the other two cards actually help in stabilizing the board so I think they're worth it. Ancient Tomb can definitely be a liability against aggro decks.As a result, I believe it's generally ok to have the additional mana fixing (very color-intensive deck) and scry effects taking up the turn 1 play. The other 1-drops serve as great curve filler down the road and potentially messes with opponent combat math. In my experience, the only 1-drops that I definitely want to come down right away are Aether Vial, Goblin Lackey, and the 3 discard effects. However, that problem is somewhat offset by having Grenzo as an emergency 2-drop. In general, the deck can afford to take turn 1 off but does not really want to take turn 2+ off. I hadn't consider IT in the past and will definitely have to start keeping track of how good it would have been in place of other flex cards I'm currently running. Due to the higher curve (currently ~2.47 average CMC) and land count, I usually won't be Hellbent until the late-game I feel. I think it depends on your definition of quite fast.Hi KoKonutted! I really appreciate the response! What about some strong individual cards like ], ], ] (may have missed some staples)? I read that Lightning bolt is dead against control, but is it that much a dead card?ītw, I really like the "scry and shuffle management" this deck requires, I'm really eager to play this deck on cockatrice.Would you play your grenzo as a 2/2 or a 3/3?.Some cards costs a bunch of life: ], ] and ]: Isn't it a bit of a nonbo against aggro (since it's a huge part of the current meta)? Does the deck have an overall good matchup against aggro?.(If the gameplan is slower, it's fine, and I understand how well it goes with Grenzo, plus you wrote that it plays like a midrange deck, but i just want to be sure!) Do you heavily rely on your curve? I mean do you need to have a "T1 land - play a card, T2 land play a card, T3 land play a card" opener? Some lands could disrupt that explosiveness, such as ], ] and the "ETB tapped for scry" lands.I feel like you're going to be empty-handed quite fast: What about ]?.I've never played that deck, but I play Dual commander on a regular basis, and I've got a few questions: SB: 1 Grenzo, Dungeon Warden # !Commander Long story short, if there are any hidden gems you're aware of that I missed, please comment and let me know! If you're unsure if I've previously considered a card, I include a rationale section in the primer with regards to how I built the deck and provide a notable omissions section. I believe the deck is 95+% tuned and am working on tackling the last few % points. I wrote the primer (link below) for the competitive French 1v1 Grenzo tribal deck. If your meta/league has custom rules or bans we ask that you move your requests to /r/EDH instead. Please use the Magic Judges chat to ask about rules and card interactions. List any experience (if any) you've had with the deck.īe respectful of all suggestions and criticisms. Include the deck's main goal and how it gets there. Include commanders, strategies, wincons, or if you are going into a blind meta. If you cannot afford a bunch of cards all at once feel free to ask which suggestions you should prioritize getting first. You must provide a decklist from a deckbuilding site.However, expect non-budget cards to be brought up and discussed. Common ways this rule is broken include any post that talks about a deck but doesn't provide a decklist, does provide a decklist but doesn't give any information about the metagame, your general strategy, or other relevant information. Contrary dialogue is valuable - personal/emotional attacking is not. Feel free to ask questions.Īccept that opinions are just opinions. Discord Server Decklist Database Combo Database cEDH Staples List Etiquetteīe inquisitive. ![]() ![]() A community for passionate EDH players to discuss the competitive meta of the format. ![]()
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